I emailed JJP “Dear Sir I have purchased The Secret on Kindle books in 2016 I spend many hours staring at your artwork from that book on my 11 inch Ipad I noticed the illustrations in my kindle book are not of the same color hue and detail as the originals I viewed on the Travel channel show Would you please consider selling higher quality illustrations to supplement the Kindle edition or as a stand alone purchase? I don’t think any clues were left out when printing and I am not looking for any missing clues. I just find the detail fascinating I paid for the original paperback then I bought the kindle edition. I am happy to pay for the higher quality illustrations too. Sorry to bother you. Love your work Thank you” The Reply from his assistant “Thank you for the kind words and your interest in Mr. Palencar’s art for “The Secret - A Treasure Hunt”. Regrettably the copyright for all of the art produced for this book is owned by another entity that purchased the copyrights, catalog and intellectual properties formally own by Byron Priess Visual Publication. The contract prohibits Mr. Palencar from selling these particular images as prints. The originals are not currently for sale. Thank you for your interest. Good luck hunting.” My Response “Thank you My understanding is that Mr Palencar offered to sell the “Cleveland Artwork” to the Mr Zinn the finder of the CLeveland casque If another casque is found, would there be a similar offer for the corresponding artwork Or am I misinformed” I am going to make a similar request to the new owner of Byron Priess Visual Publishing

Unknown: If another casque is found, would there be a similar offer for the corresponding artwork My guess is that he will say not at this time, or something similarly vague and dismissive, if only to avoid the inevitable negotiation that would follow. Practically speaking, however, if you actually have a casque, and are willing to pay the asking price ($10,000 to start sounds about right to me), you will probably get a different answer. Whether you are talking about artwork, information, or jewels, step one is, and seems like it will forever be, find a casque. Then we'll talk.

Doghousereiley wrote:: I am going to make a similar request to the new owner of Byron Priess Visual Publishing Worth a try. See if you can persuade John Colby to publish a set of posters!

A wiki user named Ameripicks called JJP I found the conversation interesting Had a phone call with John Jude Palencar. He was very gracious in talking with me. The conversation went on about 7 minutes. I was calling about the possibility of making better photographs of his art work than we have now. Even if he got permission from John Colby and Brick Tower Press to do so, he still doesn't want anyone else to have or make High resolution photos of the paintings. Partly out of his honor to Byron Preiss and not to get into any litigation about it. He did want me to tell everyone this so not to call or email further about it. He is not going to change his mind. He was very nice and a bit chatty reflecting back on the days He and Byron kicked around ideas on where to bury the casques. It was very entertaining him telling the stories. I am trying to remember them while I type. Even told about the Cleveland bury that the Police drove by when Byron was up there on the planter frozen in fear with shovel in hand. He did say “the easiest two have been found”. He did say Josh Gates was close. He quickly backed up by saying that he could not say by 5 ft or 5 miles really. He was referring to the TV footage of the Milwaukee casque hunt. But a little to the left or right is all you need to do sometimes. Side - I am always a believer in poking beyond the dug hole in all directions just in case you are close. I told him I lived closest to Charleston and St. Augustine but most interested in San Francisco right now. He said yes and the one up there in Minneapolis I think. He was on a roll at this point. I could not get in a "but or What?". I do think he meant Milwaukee. So don't freak out. He said that there is more clues in rest of the book. The Tale Simply Told & Passage To The New World. That the immigration story was important to him (Byron). Referring to Cleveland again, he said is why they chose that place because of the immigrant focus there. Funny side - There was a wedding going on in the park in 2004 when they found the cascade. John Jude Palencar did say about the reprints of the books that the images were “HORRIBLE”! Some clues couldn’t be or would be hard to make out. So – Looks like the original book is GOLD. Not to say that one can’t just figure out clues and find one without it. Apparently He does know were some of them are buried. But we know he is obligated at many levels not to tell. Not that something might slip out unintentionally. He did say that Byron would drop in and stay at his place when passing through. Used Johns place like a 2nd home. Probably why He did 3 so close to his house. John seemed to have more memory or stories to tell on them. They were very good friends as He told me several times. This is all I can remember right now. Probably all to tell anyway. He did say to me but certainly to all the ones in the group I was calling for “Good luck in the hunt”.

Thank you for sharing this!! It has never occurred to me to make any calls or inquiries about the hunt to any of the people involved in creating the book. I feel as though I'm in the minority. Was fun to read this. Thanks.

I want to suggets to Palencar if he would hold an "Exhibition" or showing of his Secret art work I would travel to Cleveland and pay to see the originals

I agree. I'm a classically trained painter and I'm aware of many of his techniques (note: I'm aware of these techniques and not totally capable of executing them), and this man is a genius!! The things this man is capable of meshing and hiding - it's astounding. We may never see another like him.

Doghousereiley wrote:: I want to suggets to Palencar if he would hold an "Exhibition" or showing of his Secret art work I would travel to Cleveland and pay to see the originals you would be talking to the wrong person as he no longer holds the rights to the images. you need to talk to Expedition Unknown.

Doghousereiley wrote:: He did say Josh Gates was close...He was referring to the TV footage of the Milwaukee casque hunt. Great post, thanks Doghousereiley. That's especially interesting - maybe we're not done with those lions yet.

I had a thought JJP meant St Augustine about being close although the poster said he thought Milwaukee was where JJP meant I really thought watching the show, with the GPR that they would find something

if a casque was found he could do the comicon circuit

Doghousereiley wrote:: I had a thought JJP meant St Augustine about being close although the poster said he thought Milwaukee was where JJP meant I really thought watching the show, with the GPR that they would find something My friend with a gpr watched the parts of the show where it showed the gpr output and said that they weren't set correctly. I'm not sure what he meant, he didn't explain, but he tried really hard to convince John Fraser to let him go over the area again. Fraser said absolutely no more for in the park.

where in the park were hey exactly with the gprs on EU?

in milwaukee*

EU Milwaukee....Gates and Renner didn't use a gpr. They probed / dug at the base of the SE lion, Southern Lion Bridge.